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Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Feb 21, 2024

My guest this week is the amazing Donna Jones. Donna is a national speaker, church planter, pastor’s wife, and self-described bible explainer with a remarkable speaking portfolio spanning 26 states and 4 continents.

Donna is also the host of the weekly That's Just What I Needed podcast and the talented author behind Seek: A Woman's Guide to Meeting God, Taming Your Family Zoo, the Get Healthy Bible Study Series, and more. 

In honor of her newest book, Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life, she joins us today to share powerful strategies for handling conflicts with grace and truth. We talk about everything from navigating disagreements to the biblical foundations of forgiveness. I know there is something valuable in this conversation for everyone- get ready for a good one!

2:29 – Donna 101

  • Pastor’s wife and church planter
  • National speaker, writer, and mom
  • Passionate about conflict resolution
  • Gym, coffee, and shoe lover

7:04 – Healthily Handling Conflict

  • Communicating thoughts, feelings, and opinions with grace and truth
  • Donna’s unique perspective on conflict through ministry
  • Don’t make the small things big and the big things small

18:31 – The Art of Listening & Disagreeing Gracefully

  • The conflict continuum
  • Listening to understand
  • Learning to disagree without being disagreeable

34:20 – Forgiveness

  • Forgiveness is a command, choice, and promise
  • Starting with the “want to”
  • Inviting Jesus into the pain
  • It’s never too late

49:28 – Takeaways

  • Ordering Donna’s book
  • Connecting with Donna
  • Free online resources


“I would like to hope that this book serves the purpose to help people avoid things that will make them regret how they handled some conflict in their life.”

“If you have conflict with someone, it does not mean you are a bad person, they are a bad person, or your relationship is somehow defective or bad.”

“When we invite Jesus into those spaces, He doesn't shame us. He sympathizes because He leans towards us and He whispers, ‘I know. I felt it too. I get it. I understand. And I can help.’”

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